Shortly after the Bears introduced Johnson as their new HC in January 2025, he joked that he "kinda enjoyed beating" LaFleur "twice a year" when Johnson served as OC of the Detroit Lions. 

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/packers_hc_matt_lafleur_expands_on_alleged_feud_with_bears_ben_johnson/s1_13132_43176781

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